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Dr Hungerford tracks our lost nutrients

26 Mar, 2009 05:13 PM
Agricultural science has delivered some remarkable advances in yields, but inadvertently created some perverse outcomes that practitioners like Carole Hungerford believe are trashing health and health budgets around the world.

CSIRO research published last year found that simply adding superphosphate to a wheat crop reduced zinc levels in the wheat grains by 33-39 per cent – to the point where people who got most of their zinc from the wheat in their diet would become deficient in the nutrient.

The research suggested the phosphate destroyed arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi (AMF) in the soil.

AMF are a key to how grasses like wheat access zinc from the soil.

Long fallows and canola crops, both hard on AMF, produced a similar depeletion of zinc in wheat grains.

A US Department of Agriculture study published in 2006 looked at changes in nutrient levels in hard red winter wheat as new varieties were introduced from 1873 to 2000.

They found that compared to 130 years ago, modern varieties deliver 36pc less selenium, 34pc less zinc and 28pc less iron.

From 1919, when wheat hybridisation began in earnest, the USDA researchers calculated that "...the amount of wheat farmers harvested from a given field increased by about 1pc each year, (but) the amount of these micronutrients in the harvested grain declined by .16 to .38pc each year".

And a University of Texas study of 43 fruits and vegetables, published in 2004, found nutritional quality declined in the 50 years between 1950 and 1999.

Six out of 13 nutrients studied showed apparently reliable declines, including protein, calcium, phosphorus, iron, riboflavin and ascorbic acid.

The declines ranged from 6pc for protein to 38pc for riboflavin.

"Perhaps more worrisome would be declines in nutrients we could not study because they were not reported in 1950—magnesium, zinc, vitamin B-6, vitamin E and dietary fiber, not to mention phytochemicals," lead researcher Donald Davis was reported as saying.

For more coverage see this week's The Land.

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Deficiencies in natural foods is not new knowledge. Years and years ago we were advised to supplement with kelp as the area we grew up in was deficient in iodine. Supplementation is necessary but synthetic copies of a helpful plant ingredient probably won't meet our bodies needs. If one can access plant based food supplements while our farmers are working on improving the soil, we, as individuals, and our health system would probably be better off.
Posted by towardswellness, 27/03/2009 10:58:32 AM
Hi Carole: I posted an article yesterday for the product Herbagreen. Dont know know if you have had the opportunity to look at the Web Site , do you think it has merrit...?
Posted by Michael, 27/03/2009 11:45:20 AM
Michael, there are a lot of good products out there, but it is not in my interest to align myself with any one of them.
Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 1:40:33 PM
Dr Hungerford - disease has always been part of the human condition. The 40,000 year old Ice Man found in Italy a few years ago was riddled with arthritis. My grandmother died of asthma in the 1950s. What's changed, in your opinion?
Posted by Matt Cawood, 27/03/2009 11:54:15 AM
Disease has always been with us. It's a matter of how much disease, and at what age disease is contracted. The morbidity and mortality from asthma has risen across the western world, for instance. The question we need to ask is whether we are improving or have slipped back. I think we've slipped back.

We are living longer, but the 60-80 year olds who are living longer ate different food, probably from better soils. And we are living longer because of an unsustainable thing. To put in a pacemaker in a 70-80 year old costs the Australian government $30,000. To do a coronary artery bypass is much higher. We can't continue to carry those costs.

The costs are going up and up, and Joe Public doesn't want to pay for it all out of his taxes. We cannot sustain it as a cost thing - but that's why we have been living longer.

Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 12:08:21 PM
Does there need to be greater integration between the Health and Agriculture portfolios in government?
Posted by Matt Cawood, The Land, 27/03/2009 12:11:27 PM
Yes, most definitely, as the UK Thames Valley study suggests. I'd go further, and say that at the university level there should be greater integration between certain faculties, for instance between the medical faculties and the ag science and geography faculties, so all but the most myopic person can see that there is a relationship between these disciplines.
Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 12:15:12 PM
In earlier comments, several people questioned whether your work is just opinion, or whether it has been peer reviewed.
Posted by Matt Cawood, The Land, 27/03/2009 12:19:04 PM
My book won the Queensland Premier's Award for Science Writing in 2006. The award was assessed by scientists, which is one form of peer review. It also was very well received by Robyn Williams, arguably Australia's premier science journalist, during a public one hour forum.

The book is also is the standard textbook for a course at the Australian College of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine (www.acnem.org), which was designed by doctors for doctors.


Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 12:23:40 PM
Dr Hungerford, after reading your book some time ago I bought some liquid Seleinium. After taking the recommended daily amount for a few weeks I was starting to feel a bit off, so I stopped taking it. My question to you is, I grow a lot of my own veggies and salads, should my own garden soil all ready have enough of the nutrients I require, or should I still use suppliments, and in what form. I am a 58 year old male living on a semi rural property Thanks.
Posted by Hensby, 27/03/2009 12:19:28 PM
I can only guess why you may have felt a bit off. It may have been unrelated to the selenium. But one of the things we do know is that selenium can shift mercury and other heavy metals from the body and cause people to temporarily feel off.

If you are concerned about your health, I suggest you find a well-trained naturopath, or a doctor from www.acnem.org - there is a list of practitioners on the site.

For your vege garden, I could only suggest that you use well balanced organic mineral supplements. If the soil is fully mineralised, you might get enough minerals that way.

Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 12:31:49 PM
Where does the medical establishment stand on nutrient deficiency as a cause of chronic disease?
Posted by Matt Cawood, The Land, 27/03/2009 12:36:56 PM
In Lancet (one of the most prestigious medical journals in the English-speaking world), in 2000, there was a 10 page article on the importance of selenium to human health which highlighted the low and diminishing selenium status in some parts of the world, causing a range of health effects, from thyroid disorders, to infertility, cancer and heart disease.

Also, magnesium deficiency is increasingly being recognised as an unsung cause of many health disorders related to the heart, pre-eclampsia (a common cause of urgent Caesarian section), asthma, anxiety and depression.

In one study in a neurological journal, Cephalalgia, it was found by giving magnesium supplements to people with migraine headaches, they halved the frequency and severity of the headaches. That was in 1996. All of the neurology clinics in Australia are aware of that study, but very few put it into practice. I use it all the time, and have a very high success rate.

The medical profession's response to nutrition in general:

- the profession talks about me condescendingly as that "alternative" doctor, but it's surprising how many medical doctors come to me or send their family to me to deal with issues that they can't correct themselves.

- Max Planck's comment was that "Old theories do not die because they are disproven, they die because those who cling to them die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with the new idea".

Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 12:50:04 PM
Does the farming population suffer the sorts of diseases you specialise in any more than other parts of the population?
Posted by Matt Cawood, the Land, 27/03/2009 12:56:38 PM
We know that due to drought, farmers are more likely to be suffering from depression, and that is due to the obvious stresses. They are having a horrible time, and suffering the consequences.

There is a general perception that farmers are more prone to lymphoma and leukemia than other parts of the population, and this is sheeted home to agricultural chemicals. I can't back that up with figures, but I have often heard rural doctors say, "Not another farmer with lymphoma/leukemia".

Furthermore, I was interested to note that the NSW Health Department chose Dubbo as an area for researching Parkinson's disease. Although Dubbo is urban, we know that there is an increased risk of Parkinson's in people handling agricultural chemicals or even garden chemicals.

The problem with all of this is that in some ways, farmers are living a healthier life - less pollution, lots of sunshine - but on the other hand they are often in contact with toxic chemicals. You're really not comparing like to like with other areas of the population. However, as a general statement, I see quite a few sick farmers.

Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 1:04:22 PM
How excitingto see more awareness of soil health and the correlation between it and human health. We have done seminars and work with Dr Arden Anderson some years ago when he visited Australia.one of the things I remember clearly was the importance of available calcium and magnesium for the plant health and it is no dfferent to the human body. i work as a natural therapist and the evidence of magnesium deficiency is vast. I believe this is from a two pronged attack; deficiency through the diet because of poorly grown food, but also an unprecedented amount of heavy metals and toxins bombarding the human body. Heavy metal ties up the available calcium/ magnesium in the soil and I see this being the same in the human body. In my clinic using a mineral (zeolite)to bind up and excrete the heavy metal and also aid the dtoxification of other chemicals , we see good mineral levels rise as the heavy metals are excreted, this is without any change in diet or food source. theseresults can be seen with hair analysis. I wonder if we need to be raising awareness of the use of zeolite application on soils also? If it does for soil health, as Ive seen results in human health it could be worth encouraging.
Posted by tricia, 27/03/2009 12:59:18 PM
Another Arden Andersen fan! He is most impressive - a PhD in agriculture, and a medical doctor. I've been to Dr Andersen's courses.

I don't know anything about zeolite on soils. In humans it works in the gut to absorb heavy metals, but does not get absorbed into the bloodstream. The extent to which it helps the body relieve any heavy metal burden is thought to be limited. In cases of serious body toxicity, chelation therapy may be necessary, although a safe alternative is the use of supplements like selenium and zinc which get absorbed into the bloodstream and shift heavy metals out of the body.

Selenium shifts mercury and zinc shifts lead.


Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 1:12:35 PM
If you were in charge of a massive government-funded program to *prevent* illness, where would you start.
Posted by Matt Cawood, The Land, 27/03/2009 1:15:30 PM
We're definitely talking hypothetically here ...

First of all, I would attempt a serious attack on the junk food industry. On television this week there was a forum talking about involving the industry in tackling obesity, which to my mind is like putting the lunatics in charge of the asylum. Politicians show no evidence of making a serious effort on this issue.

Secondly, I'd support farmers to really implement best practice according to the Thames Valley report on food, farming and health.

Thirdly, I'd invest in the medical profession so that our reliance on the pharmaceutical industry for research and health care treatment is diminished.


Posted by Ben Fargher on 27/03/2009 1:23:22 PM
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