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'You don't debate with Bob Katter'

25 Aug, 2010 05:58 AM
Everyone agrees Bob Katter is a passionate man.

But whether he can negotiate is another matter entirely.

Supporters and opponents of the eccentric Queensland independent MP have warned Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott compromise is not his forte.

Whether he's arguing for gun ownership, industry protection, regulated ethanol standards or economic rationalism, no one wants to debate the Akubra-wearing political cowboy.

"You don't debate. He has his agenda and no one's going to be able to infiltrate that," chair of the National Coalition for Gun Control Samantha Lee said.

Arguing for gun ownership restrictions, Ms Lee has faced off with Mr Katter several times on breakfast television program Sunrise.

Struggling to get a word in around the man she describes as being like a "crazy uncle", discussion with Mr Katter was almost pointless.

"You don't debate, really, he goes off on his own tangent," Ms Lee said.

But it's not just his opponents who claim Mr Katter has closed ears.

Canegrowers Association CEO Ian Ballantyne has dealt with Mr Katter for 20 years, since his time as a state MP where he once served in the ministry of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

"Bob is really honest and an emotional advocate for the people he represents," Mr Ballantyne said.

"Bob's failings would be that he's not a details man. He will often get only part of a story and respond and react to that.

"I've never seen Bob willing to listen at all.

"He'll listen to the bits he wants to and then he'll form a view. It's very hard, very difficult [to get him] to move on from that point."

Mr Ballantyne said the outcast MP was often not "rational and sensible", however, his argument that there was disconnect between government and regions was "spot on".

Mr Katter moved to federal politics in 1993 as a member of the Nationals but quit in 2001, citing disenchantment with the party.

On Saturday, he attracted almost 70 per cent of the vote in his north Queensland seat.

Mt Isa Mayor John Molony said the popular MP would handle this week's negotiations with Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott well.

"This could be one of the defining moments of Bob as a politician," Councilllor Molony said.

"The strain would be tremendous but Bob's accustomed to living on the edge like this."

Close friend Fred Frost predicted a tough battle for the party leaders but said Mr Katter would have his electorate at the forefront of his mind.

"You might want to ask the others how they are going the handle Bob, it will be stressful for them," Mr Frost said.

Holding the balance of power would be one of the highlights of his friend's career.

"He's not looking at it as a power thing but as having more of a say," Mr Frost said.

"He will say if you want my vote, then this is the deal.

"He never backs off, he's so passionate about his electorate and the people in it."

But Mr Ballantyne said it was that love for his electorate that often made Mr Katter irrational.

"Bob is a populist, he's fundamentally a populist," Mr Ballantyne said.

"He says what the people want to hear and he's not always able to back it up with fact or delivery."

A local company fighting to establish a sand mine near Walsh River on the outskirts of Mareeba, west of Cairns, have also faced the man who calls himself The Force From the North.

Tableland Earthmoving and Raw Materials project manager Dave Neenan has known Mr Katter for years - and has even voted for him.

But his impressions of the straight-talking man have changed since attempting to deal with him.

"Bob basically makes his own mind up about something and he doesn't flinch from his stance," Mr Neenan said.

"He's got his mind made up before he goes into discussions.

"I respect his stance on things but I do have difficulties with the way he goes about his business. I would speak to both parties before I came to a decision on something."

But a local conservation group against the new sand mine said while their ally was "forceful", he was also "passionate".

"If he's passionate about what he believes in, [he is] very easy, very encouraging [to work with]," Save the Walsh Action Group spokesman Kevin Bartlett said.

''He is very forceful, he likes to put his point forward.

"He's reasonable and he understands the most important things, like our issue."

Mr Neenan said while he disagreed with Mr Katter's tact, he had his own theory why the veteran parliamentarian was unwavering when he made up his mind.

"When you've been knocking your head against a brick wall for so long you become hard-headed," Mr Neenan said.

"Negotiation might not be one of his strongest points [but] he pushes what he believes and he pushes very hard."

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This bloke will be the tail wagging the dog; a very short-term and unstable arrangement fraught with danger and guaranteed to fail. Whilst the Mad Hatter and Boofhead Barney may not care deeply for each other, they are pea(brains) from the same pod.
Posted by Bushie Bill, 25/08/2010 7:39:19 AM
Bob Katter understands very well that trying to debate with Samantha Lee is time wasted.
Posted by Ted O'Brien, 25/08/2010 8:00:31 AM
Good on him as the chair of the National Coalition for Gun Control. Samantha Lee and those with her outlook have had the national ear and all the running in the media with their irrational hatred of firearms & push to protect us from ourselves attitude. Gun control has never been a two-sided argument - it has always been those that believe that law abiding citizens can't be trusted with firearms and must have them removed. Well love, when we finally get a pollie that is't focused on being politically correct by saying that firearms aren't the problem & the scaremongers like yourself brand him as dogmatic when I suspect that you would not be used to a public debate where your opponent isn't tyring to appease brainwashed city voters. The daily use of firearms is as part of the Austrailian bush community as utes with dogs in the back. To tell us that we are sick in the head for trying to protect ourselves from idealogues like yourself tells me you are the one who is dogmatic and won't listen to reason.
Posted by Shooter, 25/08/2010 8:05:11 AM
Get into them all Bob - shake the trees in Canberra good and proper! Get back the basics for rural Australia!
Posted by The Grazier, 25/08/2010 9:57:39 AM
How dare Mr Katter use Ms Lee's own tactics against her, and to make matters worse he is better at it than she was. Still when someone beats you in an argument, the best option is to say you weren't trying because they are too dumb to argue with, right, Bushie Bill.
Posted by Qlander, 25/08/2010 10:34:12 AM
Bushie Bill is only a stooge, nobody could be that dumb, or could they ??
Posted by John Niven, 25/08/2010 12:18:11 PM
It May sound a strange but I like the idea of a government that doesn't have a large majority that allows it to run off and execute their extremer policies. Most people support many of the the two main parties policies but wish they would leave the far left or right wing idealogy out of the mix. Sadly it may be the courage of this small band of independents that force the major party that takes office to behave in the best interests of all Austrailans, not just the ones that they are pandering to. It only takes good people to doing nothing for bad things to happen. Climate change, water & property rights for swindled farmers, rural area broadband & health, excessive mining exploitation - these things don't normally excite the self interested city population so don't get a fair hearing or any action. I am sure that the major parties know they should take action on these things but lack the courage & will to buck political correctness. BUT if they can be made correct these injustices and let them save face by claiming they were FORCED to by the naughty independents, we could see some positive outcomes for all the country areas.
Posted by Shooter, 25/08/2010 12:21:45 PM
So I believe the criticism here is that Bob is a pollie who when seeking election tells everyone what he believes in then refuses to negotiate his beliefs away after he is voted in and is willing to speak out in defence of those beliefs. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE? Unlike so many others that voice local concerns then go to Canberra and toe the party line then return and claim they fought hard for their community. I think these attributes show strength not a weakness.
Posted by Shooter, 25/08/2010 1:17:03 PM
All this Katter-worshipping reminds me of the almost identical enthusiasm, optimism and, the outpourings of a brand new era for the bush when Boffhead Barney was at his peak last year. It was going to be the beginning of a new rural paradise. Where is the silly old coot now?
Posted by Bushie Bill, 25/08/2010 7:01:45 PM
Bob Katter is right about the loss of food production, manufacturing and lack of patriotism. We so wish we had a passionate representative in Logan who advocates for his constituents in the way Bob Katter does. Then we would not have to protest on lack of electoral representation and political accountability in front of John Mickel, our local State Labor MP’s electorate office. Mr Mickel is the Speaker of Parliament, but he regularly walks past us pretending we do not even exist as we continue to demonstrate every working day outside his office. This is week 13. Unfortunately we have had no luck with Craig Emerson, Federal Labor Member for Logan (Rankin) either. We had to ask an Independent MP to sponsor our e-petition http://bit.ly/aueuVm titled Independent investigation into unlawful editing of courtroom audio tapes and transcripts. A ministerial response to this petition is due on 2 September, but we fear the result will be that our complaint will again be swept under the carpet by the Bligh Labor government, while the opposition is strangely silent. Further details: Bullied schoolboy wants independent investigation on judicial corruption http://bit.ly/c3iUvW
Posted by Jennifer Nash, 25/08/2010 9:08:35 PM
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Bob Katter on the campaign trail in an Innisfail banana plantation. Photo: Robert Rough
Bob Katter on the campaign trail in an Innisfail banana plantation. Photo: Robert Rough
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