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Even before Copenhagen, the world is moving

28 Nov, 2009 07:49 AM
THE Liberal Party is now divided into three camps on climate change - and the only policy on which a majority can agree is to delay a decision.

One camp, led by Malcolm Turnbull, accepts that humans are causing climate change, and wants rapid action to change that. A second, led by Nick Minchin and Tony Abbott, rejects the mainstream science on global warming and the need to do anything.

Between them is a third group, which is more uncertain what to believe or do. It wants to put off a decision until after next month's summit in Copenhagen shows what the rest of the world will do.

To many Australians, that makes sense. Australia emits just 1.5 per cent of the world's greenhouse gas emissions. Whatever we do won't stop global warming. Shouldn't we wait to know what others will do before we decide what to do ourselves?

Some say this is where Joe Hockey would take the Liberals if he becomes leader. That would buy him time, but in reality, waiting for Copenhagen doesn't make sense.

First, Copenhagen is essentially about setting broad targets for future emissions, and some global issues, such as who will pay to bring low-emissions technology to developing countries.

The emissions trading debate, by contrast, is about the detailed design of how Australia's scheme would operate. The Copenhagen talks will have little bearing on that. They might produce a statement of principles, and a list of countries' targets, but not a detailed set of rules.

Second, we know what our targets will be, and what those of the key players will be. The world's largest economy, the European Union, decided long ago that by 2020, it would cut its emissions at least 20 per cent below 1990 levels. In Australia, Labor and Liberals agreed long ago to aim to cut emissions in 2020 to 5 per cent below year 2000 levels.

On Wednesday, the White House said the US would target cuts by 17 per cent from 2005 levels by 2020, rising steeply to a 42 per cent cut by 2030. A day later, China pledged that by 2020, it would cut carbon emissions per unit of GDP by 40 to 45 per cent from 2005 levels.

Got that? Everyone is doing their own thing. Does any of that change the way you think we should design our emissions scheme? No. Waiting for Copenhagen is no solution.

Third, if it makes sense for us to wait, doesn't it also make sense for every country to wait to find out what others are doing? We're all in the same boat.

If so, no one should go first. We would all wait. No one would do anything.

But we won't be going it alone. In 30 European countries, including Britain, France and Germany, emissions trading is already a reality. New Zealand this week finalised its own revised scheme. In the US, Congress is expected to approve a scheme early next year. The world is moving.

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Why do we work so hard trying to believe that death by CO2 is legitimate when there is practically an “admition” in ClimateGate that the planet is not dying after all? It’s like we wish for this misery to happen. Are we off the rails here or what? We are losing sight of our goals and doubling our efforts anyways and history will not be kind to us wishing for doom for every human on the planet. I’m seeing now that motivating by fear could have been excusable at some point but when we started promising “death” of the planet, we set ourselves up for this big fall we are experiencing. The longer we wait to abandon this CO2 mistake turned outright criminal, the less that fall will hurt environmentalism. Admitting we were wrong has a price as we would have to turn our backs on some climate scientists and politicians and possibly fellow environmentalists with the distinct possibility of two opposing groups forming post CO2 era. And the CO2 faction can’t possibly be sustainable because don’t forget, we promised death. It’s going to be hard times for environmentalism and it looks like we earned it by spreading needless fear and losing the public’s trust in the process.
Posted by Meme Mine, 28/11/2009 8:10:29 AM, on Farm Weekly
I agree with climate change - it definitely changes every few years ! Some hot, some drought, some rainy. Ask any older person - we've seen it all before. All the hoohaa about the end of the world as we know it, every decade, pushed on us by the current "experts". Give us all a break and let us just get on with life - minus the global warming, 2KY, etc., sorry I forget what it was in 1990 but it would have been life threatening! Let's just live life without the fear.
Posted by NoFear, 28/11/2009 6:12:15 PM, on Queensland Country Life
As the world cools we are being hit by a warming tax and a new world government - absolute lunacy! More here; www.twawki.wordpress.com
Posted by alph, 29/11/2009 11:54:01 AM, on The Land
Why Tim Colebatch should we jump just because it is trendy. 75 years ago the consensus in Germany and much of Europe was that Hitler and the Nazi party were a good thing. Are you going to go to China and tell people why they can't enjoy a good standard of living like you have? In a country building a coal fired power station (that burns 2 train loads of coal a day) every 12 days, lifting families living standards the effect of these measures will be felt alarmingly. When 1 billion Chinese become disenfranchised with the rest of the self righteous, self indulgent world, climate change will seem like a pleasant afternoon.
Posted by why, 29/11/2009 2:12:52 PM, on The Land
Tim Colebach's article is long on generalisations, short on facts and at worst misleading. Tim, please explain what China has really said. They say they will cut carbon emissions per unit of GDP by 40 to 45 per cent. "Per unit of GDP" means that they are free to go ahead increasing their GDP and hence their emissions can rise with it....the figure is nowhere comparable to Kevin Rudd's absolute figure of 5% (yes 5%) by 2020. I haven't seen anyone come out with a translation of what Cnina's statement means in absolute terms. It probably means a continuing increase in absolute terms. And as for the assertion that the US is about to "approve a scheme", watch this space. The Waxman-Markey Bill is stalled in the US Senate and all Mr Colebatch has to hang his hat on is a statement of intent from the White House. The White House does not make the laws; it just signs them when they are passed by Congress...a long way to go yet. Let's see what comes out of Copenhagen and let's watch the debate in this country change when the climate realists in the Liberal Party are free to join the Nationals and tell the truth about this economically damaging scheme.
Posted by James B, 30/11/2009 9:57:12 AM, on The Land
Don't be surprised if the 5% isn't increased to 20% if the Liberals don't allow the current bill to pass. Also the current farming exemption could go as well. Don't celebrate until we know the price we are going to pay for the Liberals playing politics, as I think this is more about a grab for power than the issue.
Posted by Farmer Dave, 30/11/2009 10:46:05 AM, on The Land
Tim Colebatch is obviously not a journalist. This article is written by an ETS evangelist. The Land needs to get rid of him, or put him onto reporting news where he does not have a personal bigotry. There has been too much emotional and biased writing about this subject. We need genuine knowledge and understanding to come through the rubbish that has been written so far. Without that clarity of information I would vote against anyone who tried to put any position at present, because I don't trust anyone until I understand the real issues. If something smells like a rat, it probably is. This topic stinks to high heaven at present with misinformation and emotional slander everywhere.
Posted by denis, 30/11/2009 11:08:39 AM, on Stock & Land
Re James B and others - What China has said means they will not double there CO2 emissions as they double the size of there economy in the next 10 years as a business as usual approach would produce. They will keep emissions about where they are now. Do you guys seriously believe that the Chinese are going to be told what to do by some UN sponsored world government? That is laughable. The Chinese govt is seriously concerned about the impact climate change will have on the glaciers that feed into their big rivers. If climate change is not stopped and their rivers dry up and you have 800 million staving Chinese then you should really start to worry. Re the coal fired power stations, what is not stated is that they are decommissioning many inefficient stations and replacing them with bigger more efficient ones, not just building more.
Posted by brian, 30/11/2009 12:48:17 PM, on Stock Journal
Hey folks, Tim is back. Remember a couple of weeks back he wrote an article of a similar vein. Are we to believe that each and every Labor MP and voter from the 2007 election are 100% supportive and aware of the detail of the ETS? So if Copenhagen is about “broad targets” and the ETS is about “detailed design” why, the rush to have it sorted for Copenhagen? Surely Tim by these statements we are obliged to get the detailed design correct and make sure that what goes through the first time is right, not some ad hoc legislation that we can hold up as a trophy that is so flawed? Why is it that each day some one else comes out with another concern or query on the whole ETS and questions both its relevance and benefit? Surely the time is right to get things sorted, not shove some piece of legislation through that has so many imposts on our way of life. Get it right boys and girls, don’t get sucked in it is not too late.
Posted by Katandra, 30/11/2009 1:55:27 PM, on Stock Journal
The world is moving. Where to? Just as NZ moves to an emissions trading scheme we find the NZ temperature record shows no warming in 150 years. The data which gave the illusion of 0.92 degrees per century warming had been "adjusted", with no apparent good reason for this. This "adjusted" data had links to Britain's climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, one of the leading promoters of AGW theory.
Posted by Ted O'Brien., 1/12/2009 8:21:15 PM, on The Land

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