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Don't trade emissions to save Libs future, Turnbull told

22 Nov, 2009 07:54 AM
OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull has been warned to stop championing an emissions trading scheme to avoid a damaging rift in the Liberal Party.

Senior MPs say the party must unite and can do so only if support for the scheme is scrapped.

''Unity trumps policy,'' one frontbencher told The Sun-Herald.

Leadership speculation has swung away from moderate frontbencher Joe Hockey to conservative Tony Abbott, although neither wants to challenge Mr Turnbull.

Mr Abbott was previously pushing for the party to do a deal with the Government in order to put the issue to rest. But he now believes climate change has become such a toxic issue it could split the party.

Mr Turnbull yesterday refused to comment on leadership speculation but continued to mount the case for an emissions trading scheme.

''Our amendments seek to preserve tens of thousands of … jobs and to enable an emissions trading scheme to be much more effective,'' Mr Turnbull said. ''Whether we're able to achieve that will depend on the Government's reaction [and] we won't know finally what that is until the negotiations are concluded.''

Negotiations between the Government and the Opposition are scheduled to end tomorrow.

Assistant Climate Change Minister Greg Combet said it was difficult to negotiate with a divided Opposition. ''The disunity of the Coalition is still the major barrier to … [getting] the legislation through.''

The Government has already caved in to Opposition demands that agriculture be permanently excluded from the scheme and agreed to allow farmers to make money through initiatives such as offering land for carbon offsets.

The bulk of the Opposition's wish list - including more compensation for heavy-polluting industries - remains unresolved. Sources said the party room would not accept anything less than close to 100 per cent capitulation to their demands.

''If you had a house on the market for $400,000 you'd take $380,000 but you wouldn't take $250,000,'' one party source said.

The Government will demand a vote on the scheme late this week. Defeat would give it the trigger for a double-dissolution election.

The Government has also been warned it faces a bill of billions of dollars if it tries to strengthen the scheme in later years.

Lawyers for the Greens said any toughening of the scheme would hit taxpayers, who would be forced to cover the cost of government buying back carbon permits. ''All Kevin Rudd has given … is spin, reciting climate rhetoric while presenting a polluter reward system that will fail the climate and the community,'' Greens senator Christine Milne said.

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What can you say! It's all about creating another tax, so why would any party reject it? Just like the GST we had to have to replace all those other taxes. This is yet another scheme to force through another tax which we need in order to save the planet. What we really need is something to save us from the tax hungry Governments we put into power. Trex.
Posted by trex985, 22/11/2009 11:38:47 PM, on Queensland Country Life
This tax must be blocked. Prior to the Howard government bringing in the GST, there was an open and public debate, including telephone and internet information. With this Rudd TAX there is NOTHING, just meaningless spin and dramatisation of everything from extensive flooding to the end of the world.
Posted by jerangle, 23/11/2009 6:35:02 AM, on The Land
Australia will witness the biggest protest rallies ever when the real truth hits home of just what KRudd is selling us out for. The Liberal party now has a track record of selling out the majority over the disaster of deregulating the wheat exports. Now it will sell us out to massive increases in farm input cost caused by any ETS. Turnbull is finished and KRudd wants to lead the New World Government he wants support to vote for in Copenhagen. RIP Coalition, RIP Australian small business.
Posted by Disgusted, 23/11/2009 7:16:10 AM, on The Land
This ETS must not be passed for a range of reasons - all very sound. The issue the Liberal Party should consider is that if they pass this, it will provoke a mass defection to the Nats in rural Australia, if nothing else. The Libs hold more rural seats than the Nats, so it is an issue they should think about. The damage to our economy, and our export industries, particularly the rural sector, will be long lasting and devastating. Sadly, an ETS will have no impact on global climate patterns, despite the "scary story per day" campaign being waged at the moment. There were sound reasons for a GST, whether we like it or not, this is totally different - it is new, selective, and based on flawed theory, whereas the GST replaced other taxes, and was well debated.
Posted by Practical Farmer, 23/11/2009 8:39:54 AM, on Stock & Land
Organise the rallies, Disgusted, and we'll be there. Turnbull needs to get some grit and vote this legislation down. It will be the worst legislation ever imposed on this country by a government hell bent on world socialism and control, so organise soon while we still have a chance to make some changes. I have never supported socialism but I will find it hard to support any Liberal if this goes through.
Posted by Concerned Northerner, 23/11/2009 9:48:14 AM, on Queensland Country Life
If there is a single Liberal who still supports the ETS after the recent revelations of data fraud and fabrication by the UK Hadley Centre then they are fair game. Viv Forbes has insightfully pointed out that the only "man made" part of "man-made global warming" has been the ruthless fabrication of the temperature record itself. It is absolutely essential that ETS supporting Liberals in regional areas are targetted because it is the small businesses in the regions that will be hit hardest by this tax. Their local MP will be guilty of placing urban conformity over the interests of their own voters. And they must be made to pay, and Macfarlane must be top of the list. He has been played for a complete stooge by Wong over the exemption to farmers because they were always carbon neutral anyway. So all he and Turnbull have done is lend legitimacy to a bogus policy and make it very hard for anyone who suffers detriment because of this negligent policy process to sue for damages.
Posted by Ian Mott, 23/11/2009 11:12:54 AM, on Queensland Country Life
At last the Federal Opposition may be seeing some sense. If you do not think there is an international conspiracy on "global warming" read Caroline Overington's article in today's Australian. So much for the integrity of climate science.
Posted by Bob, 23/11/2009 11:30:30 AM, on Queensland Country Life
Forget the politics. The important points on the proposed Carbon Trading Scheme are: - It will increace taxes; - It will increace costs of power and general cost of living; - It will disadvantage Australia in the export market and cost jobs; - From what little I can glean the proposed system will not significantly reduce carbon emisions; and - No details of the proposed legislation has been released to the public so thare can be informed public debate.
Posted by Feathers, 23/11/2009 11:57:28 AM, on Queensland Country Life
The government will find another way to increase taxes no matter what the reason. Nothing is going to happen in Copenhagen and that has been known for some time so pinning your decisiosn on a decision that is not going to happen makes little sense. I doubt an international agreement will occur until midnight the 31st December 2012 when Kyoto expires. However, it is well known the intention of the Chinese, Americans, Japanese, India, New Zealand, UK, Europe, Brazil and Austrlaia. So cliaming to not act until we know what the rest of the world is going to do does not make much sense. If we wait and the world moves we will be further behind and with our per capita emissions will have further to go. Better to touch the brakes now and if nothing happens globally release and open the throttle (the economy's already running hot). If the rest of the world moves we are in a better position to move.
Posted by the lorax, 23/11/2009 3:21:00 PM, on Stock & Land
It's still a tax 'the lorax' and if that's the best spin the departments think tank and come up with you're in trouble.
Posted by Qlander, 23/11/2009 4:38:02 PM, on Queensland Country Life
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Q: Do you believe your farm business can profit from an emissions trading scheme?

Yes
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Undecided
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Total Votes: 606
Poll Date: 15 November, 2009

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