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Farmers might never grow ETS credits

30 Jul, 2009 10:15 AM
AGRICULTURE Minister Tony Burke has raised doubts about the potential for farmers to generate carbon credits by increasing the emissions stored in the soil, and conceded it may never be possible to include agriculture in an emissions trading scheme.

Many farmers believe the government intends eventually to include agriculture in its ETS. But Mr Burke denied this and said it was not yet possible to make an informed decision. The issue would not be resolved until 2013, The Australian Financial Review reports.

The government would then decide whether agriculture - which accounts for about 16 per cent of Australia's emissions - would be brought into an ETS from 2015.

"You can't, with where science is at the moment and the tools that are currently available, make a smart decision as to whether it would even be in agriculture's interest to be in the scheme," he told the NSW Farmers Association yesterday.

The question of whether agriculture will be included in the ETS is attracting increasing attention, as it has become clear that American farmers would not need to pay for their emissions under the model proposed in the United States.

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You would hope that the Australian government would have the decency to keep its farmers on par with the rest of the developed world's farmers in at least one thing.
Posted by Qlander, 30/07/2009 11:38:04 AM
Obviously, Australia is not "Burke's Backyard"! Again, this Government is not prepared to stand by, or stand up for, Aussie agriculture, and will continue to allow it to keep competing on an un-level global playing field, so Aussie agriculture will always be pushing 'it' uphill!
Posted by Let Down, 30/07/2009 2:05:53 PM
Australia achieved its Kyoyo target because of the sacrifices agriculture has made, without compensation. Just another kick in the guts from the man who is supposed to represent agriculture in government.

Whatever the government can get for free it will take, in this socialist country. I'm beginning to think the yellow peril would have been a better option. At least it would have been over faster, not like this slow blood letting.

Posted by Archibald, 30/07/2009 4:40:05 PM
Aussies are the easiest going and unfortunately the stupidist people on earth, Anyone who thinks Dud will not include agriculture is living in na na land.
Posted by Loc Hey, 30/07/2009 9:53:42 PM
Why is it so hard to quantify sequestered carbon from terra preta, eg a source of income for farmers when it is so easy to quantify carbon being buried with the fairies at the bottom of the garden as proposed by the coal fired electricity industry?
Posted by gregy, 31/07/2009 6:01:15 AM
Ag will be included in an ETS only after the government has finnished buying up land for carbon offsets.
Posted by Rebecca Dance, 31/07/2009 7:28:03 AM
For everyone who, God bless them, has a hankering for participating in this ill-conceived concept - an ETS - do some homework.

The facts are that we lost our best option for credits with the land clearing take. The fact that the Feds are not including land clearing in their current proposal should tell everyone that neither side of politics wants to revisit the issue.

The next question for other ag offsets is how would they work? The answer, as we should know, is buried in the Kyoto rules. They weren't written for ag and severely disadvantage ag. Any small and short-term benefits of participation - read coverage - would be consumed by administration and verification costs. At the same time, the market will hurtle down the slippery slope recently vacated by speculators in derivatives.

If you thought that the global financial crisis hurt, just wait for the outcomes of a massive market designed by government. It is a recipe for failure.

Pray to whatever God you believe in that the exclusion of ag in the CPRS becomes a permanent arrangement.

Posted by phil_oc, 31/07/2009 8:28:23 AM
Why does our government need to spend our taxes to buy carbon offsets, Rebecca? And don't give me that Chicken Little story about the sky falling in. I want the real story.
Posted by Common Cents, 31/07/2009 9:20:29 AM
Why shouldn't agriculture be included? The CSIRO has published some very good figures on levels of carbon released when farmer use the cheap and lazy method of clearing stubble after a crop - approx. 300 tonnes per hectare.

Gee...reputable scientists have also measured that approx 300 tonnes of carbon per hectare will be stored in the soil, if only the same farmers simply slashed and incorpaorated that stubble into the soil again. At the same time, there would be no micro-particle pollution through the massive amount of smoke emitted, and no health problems for neighbouring communities.

Posted by rod, 31/07/2009 9:39:28 AM
With a comment like this from the federal government, they only want to shut us up until 2013. We must be very wary!

Surely to goodness, the agricultural sector must be seen as providing life sustainable resources to the world instead of as a threat to increasing carbon emissions.

I often wonder where the Global Government's best interests lie!

Posted by Lee-anne, 31/07/2009 9:40:52 AM
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Tony Burke...You can't, with where science is at the moment and the tools that are currently available, make a smart decision as to whether it would even be in agriculture's interest to be in the scheme.
Tony Burke..."You can't, with where science is at the moment and the tools that are currently available, make a smart decision as to whether it would even be in agriculture's interest to be in the scheme."
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